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    • CRLF (Carriage Return-Line Feed) Removal
    • Variable Loop Starts
    • Remove Unwanted Messages
    • Resetting Control Numbers
    • Summing an Unmapped Loop
    • 046 - EDTRADE - Mass moving to a network
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  • Whats New
  • LANSA
    • RDML
  • GENTRAN
  • Learn TL i
  • Terms and Entities
  • Quick Prescriptions
    • 001 - Adding Occurrence to a Multiplied Segment
    • 122 - How do I activate/show HL2.0 (0734)?
    • CD vs ESD
    • CEDXMLISVR: What is this?
    • Compiled By Conundrum
    • 003 - Constant in a Receiving UFD
    • 129 - Defining the CONTRL OUNH Envelop
    • 130 - You can only record associate with multiples
    • 131 - Receiving: Record Associating more than one loop to a file
    • 142 - Variable Decimal Position vs Fixed
  • Daily Operations
  • BuzManagr
    • No Party Slot, No Problem
    • Add the simplest SFTP Connection
    • Add SFTP Inbound
  • Mapping
    • 083 - Controlling CTT 1.0
    • 084 - Date Magic
    • Flat File
      • 085 - Flat File Create Loop
      • 086 - Flat File Relay
    • 087 - Hex character to *blank
    • 088 - 43E Qualifier Value for DTM segment in an EDIFACT-ORDER version D-
    • 089 - Occurrence Conditioning Workaround
    • 090 - Understanding the SEDR Access Method
    • 091 - Update Value
    • 092 - Validate to Reject to T/E
    • 093 - Work Fields
    • 094 - XML to DTD Service
    • 110 Using Define Occurrence Conditions
    • 112 - Element SETS
    • 113 Element Set: Create or Undo
    • 121 : CTT2.0 Quantity Accumulation
    • 126 attaching the same file/record format to two different loops
    • 133 XML UFD Field Refresh Bug 457
    • 134 Forcing Trailing Element Separators after the Last Element Posted
    • 135 Removing the Relationship of a Qualifier-Qualified Pair
    • 144 - *Zero or *blank NOT posting to the document
    • 145 - [X] Ensure Segment Creation
    • 147 - Posting Julian dates to the DTM x.x Elements
    • 151 - <Detail Loop Count> Keyword
    • 154 - Half Adjusting
    • 157 - Multiple loop starter problem
    • 159 - Version and Segments
    • 162 - Undo Element Set
    • 170 - Accumulate and Post
    • 059 - Insert Optional Tare or Pack to SOI logical
    • 178 - Playing with element properties
    • 179 - Conditional Accumulator
    • Mapping Adventures
  • Big BAG of Tricks
    • 060 - Variable Loop Starts
    • 061 - Worksheet of Formats-TPRs
    • 062 - Emailing Documents from the Software's Mailbox
    • Manufacturing Test Data
      • 064 - Copying Receive Test Data from another TP
      • 065 - Copying Send Test Data from another TP
    • 066 - Summing an Unmapped Loop
    • 067 - Split and Post Long Text to Multiple Records
    • 068 - Implementing VALIDATION (Duplicate Check)
    • 069 - Validating Sample Data
    • 132 - Achieving S-O-I-P-I-P from an existing UFD giving S-O-I-P-P
    • 136 - Forcing Trailing Element Separators for Elements Not Being Mapped
    • 139 - Simulating Record Association
    • 140 - Displaced Main-Additional Address (N2/N3)
    • 172 - Generating XML based on X12
    • On the Fly Setups
  • Network Acrobatics
    • 095 - CRLF (Carriage Return-Line Feed) Removal
    • 096 - Selective Send Subsets
    • 097 - Sending in Unwrapped
    • 098 - Setting Up Pre-Communications User Exits
    • 099 - Setting Up Scripted FTP
    • 101 - Using TPxx with !Put_Session
    • 102 - Wrap/Unwrapped Control via Network
    • 103 - Transferring all Trading Partners from one VAN to another
    • 152 - FTP Script Target Folder
    • 153 - Explicit PUT
    • Trading Partner Relationships
    • Step-by-Step Testing from IFS
  • APIs and Programming
    • 047 - ED710 - Sequence # Parameter
    • 048 - File-UFD-Format-TPR Matrix
    • 049 - QRYTCE - Billing Tool
    • 050 - Communication Session to Text
    • 051 - Emailing Descriptive EDI Report Immediately
    • 052 - QRYCOMSN - Scraping Comm Sessions
    • 053 - SSNCPYPRT to Bring Comm Session to Text File
    • 115 - VDA4913 positions 60 thru 128
    • 055 - TPR - Inventory with Formats
    • 056 - ED250P2 - Add-TC Session Exit
    • 057 - GET MAIL BOX Details - Incoming
    • 058 - GET MAIL BOX Details - Outgoing to TC
    • 118 - Sending email to your trading partner for a T/E
  • For your i's only
    • 070 - CC Footer and distribution list
    • 071 - CD vs ESD
    • 072 - DDMF - Distributed Data Management Files
    • 073 - iCommands : Tricks you might not know
    • 074 - Converting Source Member to Text
    • 075 - FTP to IFS in Batch
    • 076 - Implementing Your "Scout" Code Book
    • 077 - Program Parameters 32
    • 078 - PDM Options File
    • 079 - Redefine Packed Fields via DDS
    • 080 - Trimming Out Trailing Elements of an EDI Segment
    • 081 - Updating a File in the IFS
    • 082 - Appending a CSV file to a DB2 File
    • 002 - CHGSYSLIBL
    • 107 - Adding Attibutes to the XML Declaration
    • 106 - DDS Field Default Value
    • 117 - FTP from IFS to DB2 vs FTP from PC to DB2
    • 123 - X12 SH856 SOTPII (optional T/P) using DBK
    • 127 - Mapper Licensing
    • 128 - How to Bring in UFD and Map to Change Management
    • 138 - Emailing Comm sessions after running scripts
    • 141 - Ignoring/Replacing NON-Alphanumeric characters
    • 146 - Visual Mapper Installation program
    • 148 - X12 Offline Parser (no EDI software needed)
    • 160 - Patch Confirmation
    • 171 - Authority Audit
    • TLi New Install
    • map XML tags with multiple instances of an attribute
  • Bugs, Contraventions and Work-Arounds
    • Occurrence Conditioning Workaround
    • CRLF (Carriage Return-Line Feed) Removal
    • Variable Loop Starts
    • Remove Unwanted Messages
    • Resetting Control Numbers
    • Summing an Unmapped Loop
    • 046 - EDTRADE - Mass moving to a network
    • 124 - Is there a way to IGNORE an error message
    • 125 - EDI to the AS400 and back
    • 137 - Recognize -99999 as zero
  • Chat with us
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    • Whats New
    • LANSA
      • RDML
    • GENTRAN
    • Learn TL i
    • Terms and Entities
    • Quick Prescriptions
      • 001 - Adding Occurrence to a Multiplied Segment
      • 122 - How do I activate/show HL2.0 (0734)?
      • CD vs ESD
      • CEDXMLISVR: What is this?
      • Compiled By Conundrum
      • 003 - Constant in a Receiving UFD
      • 129 - Defining the CONTRL OUNH Envelop
      • 130 - You can only record associate with multiples
      • 131 - Receiving: Record Associating more than one loop to a file
      • 142 - Variable Decimal Position vs Fixed
    • Daily Operations
    • BuzManagr
      • No Party Slot, No Problem
      • Add the simplest SFTP Connection
      • Add SFTP Inbound
    • Mapping
      • 083 - Controlling CTT 1.0
      • 084 - Date Magic
      • Flat File
        • 085 - Flat File Create Loop
        • 086 - Flat File Relay
      • 087 - Hex character to *blank
      • 088 - 43E Qualifier Value for DTM segment in an EDIFACT-ORDER version D-
      • 089 - Occurrence Conditioning Workaround
      • 090 - Understanding the SEDR Access Method
      • 091 - Update Value
      • 092 - Validate to Reject to T/E
      • 093 - Work Fields
      • 094 - XML to DTD Service
      • 110 Using Define Occurrence Conditions
      • 112 - Element SETS
      • 113 Element Set: Create or Undo
      • 121 : CTT2.0 Quantity Accumulation
      • 126 attaching the same file/record format to two different loops
      • 133 XML UFD Field Refresh Bug 457
      • 134 Forcing Trailing Element Separators after the Last Element Posted
      • 135 Removing the Relationship of a Qualifier-Qualified Pair
      • 144 - *Zero or *blank NOT posting to the document
      • 145 - [X] Ensure Segment Creation
      • 147 - Posting Julian dates to the DTM x.x Elements
      • 151 - <Detail Loop Count> Keyword
      • 154 - Half Adjusting
      • 157 - Multiple loop starter problem
      • 159 - Version and Segments
      • 162 - Undo Element Set
      • 170 - Accumulate and Post
      • 059 - Insert Optional Tare or Pack to SOI logical
      • 178 - Playing with element properties
      • 179 - Conditional Accumulator
      • Mapping Adventures
    • Big BAG of Tricks
      • 060 - Variable Loop Starts
      • 061 - Worksheet of Formats-TPRs
      • 062 - Emailing Documents from the Software's Mailbox
      • Manufacturing Test Data
        • 064 - Copying Receive Test Data from another TP
        • 065 - Copying Send Test Data from another TP
      • 066 - Summing an Unmapped Loop
      • 067 - Split and Post Long Text to Multiple Records
      • 068 - Implementing VALIDATION (Duplicate Check)
      • 069 - Validating Sample Data
      • 132 - Achieving S-O-I-P-I-P from an existing UFD giving S-O-I-P-P
      • 136 - Forcing Trailing Element Separators for Elements Not Being Mapped
      • 139 - Simulating Record Association
      • 140 - Displaced Main-Additional Address (N2/N3)
      • 172 - Generating XML based on X12
      • On the Fly Setups
    • Network Acrobatics
      • 095 - CRLF (Carriage Return-Line Feed) Removal
      • 096 - Selective Send Subsets
      • 097 - Sending in Unwrapped
      • 098 - Setting Up Pre-Communications User Exits
      • 099 - Setting Up Scripted FTP
      • 101 - Using TPxx with !Put_Session
      • 102 - Wrap/Unwrapped Control via Network
      • 103 - Transferring all Trading Partners from one VAN to another
      • 152 - FTP Script Target Folder
      • 153 - Explicit PUT
      • Trading Partner Relationships
      • Step-by-Step Testing from IFS
    • APIs and Programming
      • 047 - ED710 - Sequence # Parameter
      • 048 - File-UFD-Format-TPR Matrix
      • 049 - QRYTCE - Billing Tool
      • 050 - Communication Session to Text
      • 051 - Emailing Descriptive EDI Report Immediately
      • 052 - QRYCOMSN - Scraping Comm Sessions
      • 053 - SSNCPYPRT to Bring Comm Session to Text File
      • 115 - VDA4913 positions 60 thru 128
      • 055 - TPR - Inventory with Formats
      • 056 - ED250P2 - Add-TC Session Exit
      • 057 - GET MAIL BOX Details - Incoming
      • 058 - GET MAIL BOX Details - Outgoing to TC
      • 118 - Sending email to your trading partner for a T/E
    • For your i's only
      • 070 - CC Footer and distribution list
      • 071 - CD vs ESD
      • 072 - DDMF - Distributed Data Management Files
      • 073 - iCommands : Tricks you might not know
      • 074 - Converting Source Member to Text
      • 075 - FTP to IFS in Batch
      • 076 - Implementing Your "Scout" Code Book
      • 077 - Program Parameters 32
      • 078 - PDM Options File
      • 079 - Redefine Packed Fields via DDS
      • 080 - Trimming Out Trailing Elements of an EDI Segment
      • 081 - Updating a File in the IFS
      • 082 - Appending a CSV file to a DB2 File
      • 002 - CHGSYSLIBL
      • 107 - Adding Attibutes to the XML Declaration
      • 106 - DDS Field Default Value
      • 117 - FTP from IFS to DB2 vs FTP from PC to DB2
      • 123 - X12 SH856 SOTPII (optional T/P) using DBK
      • 127 - Mapper Licensing
      • 128 - How to Bring in UFD and Map to Change Management
      • 138 - Emailing Comm sessions after running scripts
      • 141 - Ignoring/Replacing NON-Alphanumeric characters
      • 146 - Visual Mapper Installation program
      • 148 - X12 Offline Parser (no EDI software needed)
      • 160 - Patch Confirmation
      • 171 - Authority Audit
      • TLi New Install
      • map XML tags with multiple instances of an attribute
    • Bugs, Contraventions and Work-Arounds
      • Occurrence Conditioning Workaround
      • CRLF (Carriage Return-Line Feed) Removal
      • Variable Loop Starts
      • Remove Unwanted Messages
      • Resetting Control Numbers
      • Summing an Unmapped Loop
      • 046 - EDTRADE - Mass moving to a network
      • 124 - Is there a way to IGNORE an error message
      • 125 - EDI to the AS400 and back
      • 137 - Recognize -99999 as zero
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I S A

The Challenge: "The may be an interchange header but it failed validation and was discarded"

The Analysis: This error happens during receiving. Or this might be the error your trading partner is getting. 

The ISA is the first segment of any X12 document:

a. It is the only segment that is of fixed length (there is a reason why).

b. Even though data is read positionally, there are still element separators.

c. The element separator, position 104 separates the test indicator and itself.

d. Position 105 is the sub element separator.

e. Position 106 is the segment separator.

f. The first thing the software looks for is position 106, So it will be able to further check the other segments.


The Solution: The message is letting us know that the software thinks is might ("may" as the operative word) be an ISA, but not quite.

Here are more common problems:

a. The ISA segment is less than 106.

b. There is consistently a CR/LF after each and every segment - making it a 3 byte segment separator.

c. A separator character is used multiple times; example position 105 (sub-element) and 106 (segment) of the ISA are both tildes ("~").

d. Count the lengths of fields within the element separator. The sender and receiver IDs are both 15 in length. The total of the ISA might be 106, but the sending might be shorter by 1, and the receiver longer by 1.

Note: When line Feed (Hex '25') is the segment separator, it may look like that the ISA is only 105 long, but it isn't. The Line Feed is present as a segment separator, presenting the document in the IFS/Desktop as unwrapped. But it will be wrapped in the communication session.

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